tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1846576360662045804.post8267615246505030547..comments2023-10-25T08:35:19.478-05:00Comments on Cutting Room: Talk to the Flocke: Reactions to the "Lost" episode "Across the Sea"The Reader Omahahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08209894889291269126noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1846576360662045804.post-63022302730683070732010-05-13T16:33:28.391-05:002010-05-13T16:33:28.391-05:00Have faith, Ryan. Maybe his name is going to be th...Have faith, Ryan. Maybe his name is going to be the most mind-blowing thing ever and they're saving it...maybe. :) I think it MUST be significant- it's got to be something interesting and awesome, or they would have just said "his name is Fred." Right? I *want* to believe this. Damon does kind of come across like a major A-hole, I will give you that, but maybe saying "you don't get it" means "be patient."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1846576360662045804.post-23627665359773211512010-05-13T16:08:59.979-05:002010-05-13T16:08:59.979-05:00You know, as true as that is, my problem goes like...You know, as true as that is, my problem goes like this: When asked about what was and wasn't revealed in "Across the Sea," Lindelof was asked specifically about the Man in Black's name. He said "we're sorry if you don't like the fact that you don't get the Man in Black's name, but you don't get it." It's that attitude that pisses me off. Howsabout I turn that question around and ask you what possible reason you would have for not giving us his name?Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05591065110329731784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1846576360662045804.post-73644299870100690542010-05-13T16:01:27.919-05:002010-05-13T16:01:27.919-05:00When the answers are spelled out for us, we feel i...When the answers are spelled out for us, we feel insulted. When they don't get spelled out enough, we feel cheated. The writers can't win! They could sure as hell do a better job- I can't argue with that- but I don't WANT them to lay it all out for me now, when they haven't been doing it for almost 6 years, and I've figured a lot of stuff out just fine on my own, thank you.<br />We are meant to infer an awful lot from this episode, and Doc Jensen actually had a fair number of them in his column this week. Part of what I love about this show (call me an elitist) is that it takes dedication and at least half a brain to figure it out and enjoy it to its fullest. Not just anyone can jump in and dig it like we do. I kind of like that Carlton and Damon are trusting me to use my half a brain and powers of deduction to spare myself the ridiculousness of "so the voices are the dead people," and "someone got her voice back." No shit, Sherlock! I've been figuring it out thus far, and will continue to do so, even after it's all over.<br />I liked what Buzz Blumpkin said- it's the journey. We always knew the end was going to be bittersweet and that there was no way to get all the questions answered. Why deny that now? I have faith that there'll be a lot of sweet in the next 3.5 hours...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1846576360662045804.post-21830208470804799722010-05-13T08:43:18.719-05:002010-05-13T08:43:18.719-05:00Jason and Aaron, you both just killed it for me.
...Jason and Aaron, you both just killed it for me. <br /><br />Jason - "Maybe it's just me but I care more about the mystery of the Dharma Initiative than knowing every detail of the magical island. Long ago I just kinda accepted it's magical, like the Force in Star Wars, and just ran with it believing that the characters were more important than the mythology. This season has been all about the midichlorians." Amen my brother. That's absolutely totally accurate for me. I couldn't have said it better, which is why I didn't.<br /><br />Aaron - I get you. And I think you're right. I think that you are very right. Remember Ben "What if I told you that there was a box..." Remember that? How did the horse get there? Sayid's cat? Locke's dad? The answer is that this "light" this "force of creation" is so present in the island that it can physically manifest things there. I like this very much.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05591065110329731784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1846576360662045804.post-79323373253298872862010-05-13T02:00:11.060-05:002010-05-13T02:00:11.060-05:00Ryan. I was out celebrating our first year of MA ...Ryan. I was out celebrating our first year of MA done tonight with one Ms. Baxley and decided....<br /><br />The light...its our wishes. Too much and we become consumed. <br /><br />The MiB: Wanted off the island, therefore the turning of the wheel would have accomplished that.<br /><br />Locke at the end of season 4: Was told they needed the island to move, his deepest desire to protect the only thing he really loved ( the island) so the island moved. <br /><br />The MiB post killing Allison Janney: Bent on destruction, wanting all to be dead, therefore his wish to be corruption came true.<br /><br />Boom. Hopefully this made sense...Aaron Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1846576360662045804.post-4376168441322724502010-05-12T21:38:19.097-05:002010-05-12T21:38:19.097-05:00Jacob and MiB being twins was pretty inspired, esp...Jacob and MiB being twins was pretty inspired, especially seeing how the first tie-in to the show way back in season one was the novel "The Bad Twin." <br /><br />The only thing I really hated about the episode was how vague it was when at this point of the show's life I don't see any reason to be, unless it's resolved in the finale. The mother might as well have been speaking pig latin because nothing she said made sense. She "made it" so the kids can't die, can't age, etc. but not even a nod as to how. Then adult MiB kinda just "knows" mixing a donkey wheel with underground water and "heart light" (if you're a fan of E.T. or shitty Weezer songs) will get him off the island. Well, maybe this makes sense because the guy has never seen a ship before. There was a little too much of "The Answer is...just because!" going on last night. And for the record the rest of the season one scene with Adam & Eve includes Jack saying he guesses that the skeletons are 40-50 years old. Try 3,000 years, dumb ass. Point being the show runners didn't know the precise details back then and are shoehorning it all together like every other show does. But that's forgivable. I mean, I have to do quick math just to figure out how old I was 6 years ago much less plot and pace a show of this caliber. But Disregarding major plot points won't be as easy to overlook. Maybe it's just me but I care more about the mystery of the Dharma Initiative than knowing every detail of the magical island. Long ago I just kinda accepted it's magical, like the Force in Star Wars, and just ran with it believing that the characters were more important than the mythology. This season has been all about the midichlorians. <br /><br />Anyways, to quote the internets, I'm a Lost lover not fighter....and reserving the right to pass judgement until it's all over. If I got anything from last night's episode it's this: We better see someone else thrown down that smoke monster makin' hole and get a glimpse of the center of the island. Maybe it'll be the sideways world?jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05373936046868963957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1846576360662045804.post-63941259093371667362010-05-12T21:10:26.339-05:002010-05-12T21:10:26.339-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05373936046868963957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1846576360662045804.post-12615357860822276112010-05-12T14:16:15.064-05:002010-05-12T14:16:15.064-05:00I keep telling myself that it's about the jour...I keep telling myself that it's about the journey and not about the destination. There have been some great episodes in this series. This season's Richard Alpert episode stands out as one of the greats, for instance.<br /><br />But sometimes I think the show's producers have been trying too hard to keep their viewers in the dark about the end game, and that they may have even changed the end game a few times to keep everyone guessing. I think they got Lost in the mythology.<br /><br />Last night's episode could've appeared at any time in the series, and it wouldn't have given away anything major that would've re-shaped the series. Last night was, after all, what this WHOLE thing has been about. But can you imagine your reaction if that episode would've appeared in the first or second season? I'm not sure I would've continued watching the show.Buzz Blumpkinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1846576360662045804.post-32631864925709813312010-05-12T13:27:43.671-05:002010-05-12T13:27:43.671-05:00First up, thanks to all of you for your comments, ...First up, thanks to all of you for your comments, they're very much appreciated. Second, it seems like there's nothing but a series of negative things. That's never a good sign. If you're posting here, you're not just a die hard, you're the diest of the die hards. Thus, the fact that we've blasted everything from how people died (I made the same comment about rock bumping), the dialogue, the acting...this is not a good sign. I assume you're all hanging in through the end, but boy are we not happy, huh?Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05591065110329731784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1846576360662045804.post-51085383430373695212010-05-12T12:43:14.244-05:002010-05-12T12:43:14.244-05:00If you would have told me (maybe you did - I just ...If you would have told me (maybe you did - I just didn't pay attention) that the episode was going to chronicle the lives of Jacob and MIB, I would have popped more popcorn. But alas, the popcorn I popped was more than sufficient . . . <br /><br />Also, people need to be able to kill people better. Throwing people against a rock is nice - but it ain't gonna kill a man. Just sayin' . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1846576360662045804.post-87429398970949720142010-05-12T12:41:55.297-05:002010-05-12T12:41:55.297-05:00I totally agree Ryan...what I like about the episo...I totally agree Ryan...what I like about the episode were the concepts and what we did learn- I think you are definitely right about the whole what if Smokey gets out/blinking out existence now that he essentially consumed all of the light, but man that episode made my heart sad.<br /><br />I haven't seen West Wing yet, but I just wasn't into Allison Janney last night (even after the excitement when we all realized it was her) and those kids were just...awful. <br /><br />My only hope is that LOST got all of its suck out before these last 2 episodes.<br /><br />Also, sad to say, but my initial response last night was this: "Wow. Sad when the best part of the episode is the preview for next week."Aaron Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1846576360662045804.post-78280718157967563522010-05-12T12:41:37.837-05:002010-05-12T12:41:37.837-05:00I agree with most everything you wrote, except for...I agree with most everything you wrote, except for the final grade. I think you're being charitable.<br /><br />I should've stopped watching as soon as I saw the second twin being swaddled in a black blanket (after the first was swaddled in a white blanket). How stupid do the writers think we are?<br /><br />By the way, I'm okay with abstract plotlines and no (or few) answers, but if the writers are going to do that, don't act as if the answers are important. This whole time, we've been hanging on a conflict between two (or more sides) without actually knowing what the conflict is. I still don't know. Without understanding the conflict, I don't understand the characters' motivations. I have to know WHAT'S AT STAKE. As of yet, I still don't know.<br /><br />Also, I was a little disappointed with the acting in last night's episode. Adult MIB was good, but I was really disappointed by CJ, the adolescents, and even the dude that plays Jacob. Maybe it was just the dialog, but it did have an "Episode 7" feel to it, and that's not a compliment.Juan Complexionnoreply@blogger.com